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The point, for both sides, was the spirited debate that took place in the ornate Capitol hearing room Tuesday morning.

Everything about the decor is over the top — massive marble pillars, ornate ceilings and statues that make the space feel truly grand.

The ornate, stately building echoes with women’s history, even as its current leaders infuse it with future purpose.

They also found three ceremonial spears and two ornate cauldrons or vessels, one that was decorated in both Mediterranean and Iron Age styles and probably used as a wine mixing bowl.

Herman is known for spouting hateful words not just in the council’s ornate chamber but at smaller committee meetings.